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At a time when new singers and music directors keep cropping up for every single movie, it is a mammoth achievement for one to sustain for 25 years in the playback field. K J Yesudas has done just that, by singing not only for south Indian movies but also created a niche for himself in north Indian movies, creating his own style. Like the success he has achieved in the field of playback singing, he has done so in the field of Carnatic music also.

Though his first introduction to cinema was through the song 'Neeyum Bommai, Naanum Bommai', he came to the limelight through the song “Deivam Thantha Veedu' (film 'Aval Oru Thodarkadai'), which became popular throughout Tamil Nadu.

He has the distinction of singing playback for most of the heroes in Malayalam movies and also runs a sound recording studio called 'Tharangini' in Chennai.

Your native place and about your parents...

My native place is Cochin in Kerala. I was born January 10, 1940. My father Augustin Joseph was an actor and a singer. He had not learnt Carnatic music and so he wanted someone from the family to learn the art.

We were five of us in the family and we all had interest in music. But I was the fortunate one to be chosen by my father for this purpose. Generally, Christians don't come forward to learn music, especially Carnatic music, but my father was different. I started learning music when I was five years old.

Who were your gurus in Carnatic music?

My first guru was my father. Then I learnt from Kunjuvelan Aasan, who was a disciple of Nagaswara vidwan Rajaratnam Pillai. Then came Joseph, Ramakutti Bhagavathar and Sivarama Nayar. All of them were my gurus.

Later I joined Thirubuvanathurai R L V Music Academy to study music and after finishing my final year, I did a four-year 'Ganabhushanam' course, which I finished in just three years as I was already trained in music. My guru here was K R Kumaraswamy who taught me most of the fine nuances of music. Then, to finish the Vidwan course, I joined the Swati Thirunal Academy in Thiruvananthapuram. Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer was the principal then. But I could not continue after a year due to health reasons and came back to Cochin.

Please tell us about your guru Chembai...

The credit for making me such a great man today goes to my guru Chembai. I cannot forget the concert in which Chembai took part and appreciated me and blessed me. I became popular after I came in touch with Chembai. The blessings and teachings of my guru is the motivating factor for my mastering Carnatic music.

When did you enter films and your experiences in the field?

My first entry was in 1961 and my first film was 'Kaalpadugal', a Malayalam movie. I sang just four lines but to me they were golden lines. They are etched in my memory. The song was written by Narayana Guruswamy, which advised one to embrace universal brotherhood without caste distinction. I sing this song wherever I go, as it fits the social climate that is prevailing now.

How did you enter Tamil cinema?

As I was in Chennai, I was called to sing in Tamil movies. I sang 'Neeyum Bommai, Naanum Bommai' for S.Balachandar, who also directed the film, 'Bommai'.

After that, I was not given much opportunity. Then Viswanathan-Ramamurthy duo, who were literally ruling the roost, invited me to sing for the film 'Kadhalikka Neramillai'. Then a wide gap before M S Viswanthan gave me the chance to sing for the film 'Aval Oru Thodarkadhai'. The song 'Dhaivam Thantha Veedu' made me popular and offers started pouring in.

How was your experience with M G Ramachandran when you sang for his film 'Urimai Kural'?

One day, our late chief minister M G Ramachandran called me over and asked me to sing the song 'Vizhiye Kadhai Ezhudhu'. I was elated and thrilled. My happiness doubled when the song became a hit.

MGR is a mahaan. I came to know about him at a later stage. He not only gave importance to music but more to the art itself. His character was such that he turned even his foes into friends.

For example, at a time when he had difference of opinion with Kannadasan politically, he was not satisfied with the lyrics for a particular song. Finally, he himself suggested that Kannadasan be called to write the lyrics. Others around him were hesitant but MGR was firm. He told them that Kannadasan had no equal and asked them to approach him for the lyrics. Kannadasan also obliged and the song was 'Odum Megangale' for the film 'Aayirathil Oruvan'. Enmity vanished... and art gained importance...

About singing for Hindi films...

When I was busy singing in Malayalam movies, Salil Choudhary made me sing for the film 'Semmeen'. The film and the songs became a big hit not only in Kerala but throughout India. Then Salil Choudhary invited me to sing for a Hindi film, called 'Anand Mahal'. I sang the song 'Nisagamapadhani' for that particular film. Though the film 'Choti Si Baath' was released first, this song was my first one in Hindi.

The turning point came when I sang for the film 'Chit Chor'. Ravindra Jain, the music director of the film, was a genius. He used to write the lyrics and compose the music also. This film gave me a big breakthrough in Hindi films.

How many languages have you sung in?

As far as south Indian languages are concerned, I have rendered songs in Malayalam, Tamil, Kannada and Telugu. I have sung in Hindi also. Totally, I would have sung more than 30,000 songs. It should be mentioned that most of my songs encourage the feeling of unity and brotherhood among the people.

Awards and medals you have won...

I was given the national award for the first time when I sang for the film 'Achanum Bapaiyum' 'in 1972.

In 1973, I was bestowed with the title 'Padma Sri' after the Malayalam film 'Gayathri'. So far I have won national awards seven times. (five for Malayalam, one for Hindi and one for Telugu). Other than these, I have won state-level awards also.

I have also been nominated as 'Asthana Vidwan' of Udupi, Sringeri and Raghavendra mutts.

When did you start 'Tharangini' and how is it progressing?

It is nearly 26 years since Tharangini was started. It is related to my musical life. In the olden days, there were music companies which dominated and were particular that no one else should enter that field. Other artistes were scared to oppose them but I was not. I started Tharangini, and by God's grace, it is progressing well.

We were the ones who gave the multi-record for the Tamil film 'Priya'. We started this company in 1971. The contribution of Tharangini in the release of audio cassettes during that time was immense. It was the first recording centre and studio that was started in Kerala.... Later a voice-mixing studio was started in Chennai.

Apart from my music albums, Tharangini has also produced albums of upcoming singers.

Are you interested in composing music?

I would like to be a music director also. I have composed music for 5-6 Malayalam films. But I could not continue for which my retentive power is to be blamed.

If I listened to some song, it used to be registered in my mind very deeply. So when I used to compose music, it used to reflect the shades of the songs that I had rendered. I did not like it and time was also a constraint.

In the olden times, the singer's voice used to be heard clearly but nowadays it is the music which is heard more... Your opinion on this....

You are right. It is my wish that this should be avoided. Of course, everything should change in keeping with the times. One has to know about old music also. In olden days, our grandfathers used to wear dhotis but nowadays youngsters wear pants. It is not wrong but they should know how to wear dhotis too. The same with music..

Though you are a Christian, you are a devotee of Lord Ayyappa....How did this happen?

Many people are of the view that I have changed my religion. I love 'Parabrahmam' and to me he cannot be identified with any religion.

In the same way, if you wear the 'Ayyappa malai' you become one, even if you are a Hindu or a Christian or a low caste. You become Ayyappan for 48 days, chant his name and keep it within yourself, whoever you are... where can you find such an experience?

God has given the 'Five Elements' to us for free and we are using them commercially... God has provided everything, right from an ant to human beings but man has been selfish in converting them for his own profit. I did not take the wrong path... Nobody need mistake me.. .I have been going to the Ayyappa temple for nearly 30 years.

Some time ago, you started a 'voice bank' project. What happened to it?

Chitra was the reason for my starting this 'voice bank'. She was singing track for other singers in our Tharangini studios. So, she was well-trained. Sujatha also was one of them.

When I advertised for the voice bank, I had only Carnatic musicians in mind like Unni Krishnan and Unni Menon. But the idea was mistaken by many and we received 40,000 applications as they came for free.

I formed centres in places like Madurai and under personal supervision, I recorded, edited and chose 20 singers. They are doing well now.

Nowadays the media is playing a powerful role and I feel that a voice bank is not necessary.

You sang with great artistes like P Susheela and S Janaki. How was your feeling then?

I was not scared or tensed as they helped me in my singing. We used to observe them and sing... but now the situation has changed... Each one sings and leaves... Nobody knows what they have altered after we finish our work....

For whom have you sung the most? Who is your favourite singer?

I have worked with M S Viswanathan, Ilayaraja, Devarajan, Dhakshinamurthy, Baburaj... I like Mohammed Rafi's voice. I got an opportunity to sing along with him but due to unavoidable circumstances it did not happen. He used to address me as his son, which made me feel proud. I have known Kishore Kumar also.

How are you able to manage singing in cinemas and Carnatic music? What difference do you find between them?

There are a lot of differences. Gamakkam is important in music. The difference lays in combining each raga. One has to concentrate on minute details.

I should mention that I have two mothers. One is the movie mother and the other is Carnatic mother. The former gave me courage and the latter is my original one.

Among your sons, who is your heir?

My second son Vijay is singing now. But he has to learn more. I advice him to train himself more and give total concentration to music.

What is your opinion about the view that one can enjoy the song only when it is sung in the mother tongue?

There is no language barrier in music. It is wrong to say that people listen without understanding what is being sung. They should not avoid such music...

How many understand if keerthanas are sung in Tamil? Once I sang an Arabic song in the Raga Anandha Bhairavi for Arabs. They applauded me and likewise I sang an English song in a programme and everyone liked it. Only when you hear wholeheartedly, can you understand.

About your foreign trips......

I am a Senate member in the International Parliament for Safety and Peace, an organization in the U.S. In 1965, I was invited by the Russian Government to perform as a cultural delegate in various parts of Russia; I sang a Russian song over Radio Kazakhstan, which was widely lauded by local fans.

During the Pakistani wars in 1965 and 1971, I conducted many music programmes to collect funds and handed them over to our then prime minister Indira Gandhi. I have visited many countries abroad, especially European countries like Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Italy, Switzerland and Sweden.

About M S Subbulakshmi and Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer...

The sacrifices they have made for the world of Carnatic music is immeasurable. MS, Semmangudi and Sembai have spread music at times when opportunities were minimal... It is a great honour to live at the same period as they were.

Do you sing at the Tyagaraja aradhana festival every year?

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Yes, I sing every year without fail. But this year I could not do so. I visit Mookambika temple every year on January 10. I had to sing in a nearby village. I thought of finishing it and return to Tiruvaiyaru but I could not reach the airport on time. I called up Kunnakudi on phone and expressed my inability to attend the festival. As I had to leave for Sabarimala with my family on January 13, I could not attend the festival.

What is your advice to youngsters and do you feel that Carnatic music is declining?

It is true that youngsters are showing a lot of interest in learning Carnatic music. It is obvious when one views programmes like Sapthaswaram on TV. I have only one thing to say.... One should listen to old, renowned musicians... One should continue to sing and not forget our culture.

What is your opinion about teaching music via the Internet?

How much ever one learns through the Internet, it is not equivalent to learning from one's guru. A mere book will not teach one Bhairavi raaga. 'Karnam' means ear. 'Adakkam' means to store it in one's ears .My opinion is that it is not the same as sitting in front of a guru and learning from his facial expressions.

There is a rumour that you have settled down in America?

That's what everyone thinks. I had gone to America for my children's education. I have come to India for good. I am staying in Chennai and will stay put here.

K T Sri
Translated by Radha N

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